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Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2013.05.16 12:52:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Im more in favor of there being limitations and drawbacks for being in an NPC corp.
This is most likely the best way to do anything about the dec dodging situation.
Higher bounty tax (fight NPC vet mission runner) Higher mission payout tax (Fight NPC vet mission runner) Refining tax (Fight NPC vet miners) Higher sales tax (Fight NPC vet trader) Higher cost to use factory/research slots (Fight NPC vet industrialist)
You can also have these tax go up the depending on the volume passing through the system to protect newbies since they would not generate as much or as big transaction as a veteran. The newbie mission runner does not really need to pay the same tax rate as teh veteran mission runner pulling the big ISK numbers. Same for all professions. |
Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2013.05.16 13:20:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:baltec1 wrote:Im more in favor of there being limitations and drawbacks for being in an NPC corp. This is most likely the best way to do anything about the dec dodging situation. Higher bounty tax (fight NPC vet mission runner) Higher mission payout tax (Fight NPC vet mission runner) Refining tax (Fight NPC vet miners) Higher sales tax (Fight NPC vet trader) Higher cost to use factory/research slots (Fight NPC vet industrialist) You can also have these tax go up the depending on the volume passing through the system to protect newbies since they would not generate as much or as big transaction as a veteran. The newbie mission runner does not really need to pay the same tax rate as teh veteran mission runner pulling the big ISK numbers. Same for all professions. Soooo much this. NPC corps need some serious reforming. The current situation is great for new and low SP characters, but is nothing more than an imbalanced hiding spot for higher sp/veterans. The Vets should have to pay more for that kind of protection.
The volume scaling mecanic is also better than a fixed SP/subscription cap because if we limit it on SP/sub time, people can craete alts to turn in/refine/sell thier stuff all the time. SP cap is the worst because you can stop your alt from training once he has perfect refining skills for where you mine for example or perfect trading skills. |
Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:12:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Skeln Thargensen wrote:quit whining then. Here's an amusing thing, just for you: - You agree that not being able to attack the supply chain of null sec alliances is a problem and believe this to be a problem with alts - It is impossible for CCP to "fix" the alt problem. - Therefore we must fix the problem of attacking null sec supply chains by allowing NPC corps to be war deced or making them perma war deced by moving them into the faction war. I personally prefer the faction war approach because it removes the illusion people can get that Eve is not a PVP game. -Liang
You could also just remove the ability to use a jump drive if you are in a NPC corp. Flying freighter all the way to null station would make them viable target without changing NPC corps.
If you penalize NPC corp membership enough, any serious player will find a real corp to do his thing. You can even use that to create ISK sinks in the game or make existing ones bigger. Then you just make player "flagged" for war declaration so they are stuck with a war target status for 7 days after dropping from the decced corp.
I really don't think putting the poor 3 week old chap in a faction warfare corp because unlike many players, he went to try a player run corp really young and didn't like it or changed his mind for his profession and is not interested in what they do anymore. You would also most likely see people recruiting in newbie system just to kick 24 hours later. As much as I can't say you would do it, it's pretty obvious someone in the playerbase would jump on this kind of scheme... |
Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:27:00 -
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Posta Wifda Mosta wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:5 or 10% the cost of whatever gank ship I would need to do the same thing. Wardecs are a pain in the ass, they are limited in time and you only get the one corp and they get a 24 hour heads up.
The only good thing about them is that you can go after structure in highsec. Can NPC corps even put up POS's? LoL, the npc corps POS are actually the stations you park you ship in, fire at a station and see what happens. I dare ya!
Jita undock, energy pulse weapon.
FI-RE AGAIN! FI-RE A-GAIN! I dare ya, I double dare ya mofo. FI-RE one more god damn time!
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Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2013.05.17 03:09:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Gealbhan wrote:Where's the Honor, Glory and Bragging Rights in killing a bunch of one day old newbs. Oh, that's right there is none. How about the 5 year old vet who's staying in the NPC corp? They pays their money, they plays their game. Oh, that's right, Eve is only a sand-box if folk play the way you want them to. For some reason its only okay to use this reasoning against pvpers but when pvpers use it, its not okay, unrealistic and will destroy CCP's financial integrity. The only thing your sub money gets you is the ability to log in, it does not guarantee you a single player online experience.
"Sandbox" has always been and always will be a stupid fail argument for both side of the debate. It should be clear to everyone that an argument that can be flipped from one side to the other without any effort at all is a stupid argument. Everybody has all the freedom they want as long as they accept the result of thier action. Some action have different penalties/cost as decided by the devs. If those rules are to be cahnged, it should be for actual reason and not "SANDBOX!!!!" .
We all need to remember when we were kids playing in actual sandbox. You had the right to kick the other guy's sandcastle as long as you were willing to get concordoken by whoever was watching over kids. Your sec status was usualy taking the form of informing your parent. Grinding that abck up could take weeks if not months.. |
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